Letters from the SCD support group: concerning Candida
> Has anyone here done any research on Candida Albicans? I have been doing a little and was wondering if anyone has also.
My sense from hearing about candida (which, by the way, is more
properly pronounced CAN-dida, not can-DEE-da) for years and years is
that it's a more prevalent problem than the hardcore medical line
would say, but not nearly as ubiqitous as the many authors and product
sellers and certain practitioners would have us believe. There's a lot
of literature out there connecting every problem under the sun to
candida without a whole lot of solid data to back it up. It's hard to
diagnose, hard to say whether it's a cause or a result of another
problem, and beware especially of self-diagnostic questionnaires.
Sat, 22 Feb 1997 3:28:15 GMT
<I'm wondering if the scd is the diet of choice for those with Candida?
<Is Candida related to these microbes that haunt those of us with IBS,
<UC/Crohn's and others with chronic D?
According to Elaine, the diet will address candida and the problems
associated with it. This is a problem which I suffer from, and if the diet
cures it, it doesn't do it very quickly! However, I have found nothing else
that works any better, or even comes close, so I stay with the diet. While
not cured, many of my yeast related problems are now history and I will
forever be grateful to Elaine for that and to the group as well. Also, my
daughter follows the diet loosely and it has been enough to get rid of some
of her yeast related problems as well.
I think there was a post from someone objecting to "candida" as a subject
but my personal opinion is that this subject is acceptable since this is in
fact not a crohn's site but an scd site, and Elaine has stated that the diet
will address candida. I hope that was stated gently enough to not be
offensive, I'm afraid I'm not very tactful!
I am always searching for backups to the diet that will put an end to this
miserable disorder, specifically I still battle IBS. It seems to me that on
days when I take the time to exercise, at least 1/2 hour and enough to work
up a bit of a sweat, that the diet becomes more effective and I am better
off for a few days. I know this is only common sense but maybe will help
someone who is teetering on success as I am, but tottering plenty too.
Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:41:50 GMT
In the book, those with Candida are told to drastically reduce the amount
of honey used.
From what I have read in another book the following also should be followed:
No bananas, melons or grapes or any dried fruits
no canned or bottled fruit juices - only fresh squeezed (in moderation)
fresh fruit (only 2 pieces per day).
yoghurt (in small quantities)
In general increase your intake of whole food complex carbohydrates (from
and yes the oxygen, not the sweat is more desirable, deep breathing (as for
yoga) whilst gently walking is what is needed to deeply oxygenate the
tissues without burning too many calories ( losing weight )
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 00:20:31 +0200
From: Odd Oivind Bergstad <oddb@STOVNER.VGS.NO>
Subject: Re: Flare after 14 months???
To Cheryl and Denise who wrote:
>By the way, I wouldn't discount the hot, humid weather. I work in a health
>clinic and we always see more bouts of diarrhea during periods of extreme heat
>and humidity. Perhaps the bacteria thrive during those conditions.
I don't know, but the fungus loves it!! So many people are not aware of these little gangsters called CANDIDA. They sit in the gut and are just waiting for a chance to colonize the colon and ileum. That's what the youghurt is all about, get the good bugs in and let them conquer Candida and others. The most famous one - Candida Albicans - produce acetaldehyde from suger. And, here is one problem, many people don't even know that acetaldehyd is far more toxic than alcohol. Symtoms are headeach, joint pain, premenstrual syndrom. The target organ is the brain. Some people get scizzofrenia from this little fungus.
Now Candida Albicans is a nice guy as long he is the minority, but as soon as he gets into position, he will change and grow ROOTS in the gut. And through the holes he creats in the gut, undigested food will come in contact with the immune defence behind the mucosa. The resoult is food allergi.
Maybe I am just boring you with stuff you already know to well, but in my opinion there is time to focus on other words like SCD and carbohydrates on this list and also on the IBDLIst!
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:18:43 EST
Subject: Re: pro biotics - help!
In a message dated 98-10-29 23:32:27 EST, you write:
I can't seem to beat the Candidaisis, and can't bear the thought of
giving up fruit, cheese, etc. for a long time, so I thought I'd give Pro
Biotics a try. I've been taking Nature's Biotics for about 3 weeks or
so, increasing the dosage as suggested on the bottle. For the past week
or so I seem to be having a bit of a relapse. No -D-, but not normal
either. I'm also sore in the areas were I know my crohn's is. Could
this be the 'die off' I've heard several of you mention? I hadn't had
any symptoms for about 9 months, so I'm fairly certain the Biotics are
the cause, but I don't know if this is 'good' - cleaning out yeast, or a
real relapse. I'm going to stop taking them for now, but if someone has
had a similar experiance, please let me know.>>
I too experienced exactly what you describe. The manufacturer suggests
that you reduce the frequency of the capsules rather than eliminate them
entirely. You should have gotten an instruction sheet explaining this.
From the instructions, "As Nature's Biotics begins working in the body,
some people experience various stages of the natural healing process. This
means that your body is doing its own work, so if you notice any signs
of flu-like symptoms, fatigue, constipation, or diarrhea, etc., do not become
discouraged and discontinue using the product. Simply reduce your dosage
for a few days until you have moved through the condition. Rember, Nature's
Biotics has no toxic side-effects. Any symptom described is a pro-benefit, in
that it means your body is responding to the product and working to repair
itself." You may want to review the instruction sheet.
I have been taking Nature's Biotics since Nov. 14th last year and continue
to do so with great success.
If yeast has been isolated from lab tests, taking the Nature's Biotics
give you a license to cheat from the anti-candida diet. Eating fruit will
the purpose of the probiotic if you have yeast . The probiotic should
the yeast. Feeding the yeast while trying to elliminate it is not a good idea.
My experience with Nature's Biotics can be found on my web page:
I hope this information helps.
Carl W. Tuttle
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:10:41 -0700
From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Julie A Marcelia)
Subject: Re: white tongue
A white tongue is not always a yeast indicator. I'll quote from Pre. for
Nut. Healing: "Fungal infection of the mouth is referred to as oral
thrush, a condition in which creamy-looking white patches form on the
tongue and mucous membranes of the mouth. If the patches are scraped
off, bleeding may result." A COATED tongue, on the other hand, is also
white looking but not patchy and not on mucous membranes (cheeks, etc.)
This can be an indication of the body trying to detox; some say it
indicates liver function. (This could very well be the result of a
diseased gut, or drugs- usually quite hard on the liver.) Hope this
clears up any possible confusion.
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 08:30:46 -0700
From: "Protocol Consulting" <email@example.com>
Subject: Re: Candida
Start here - http://www.goodbyecandida.com/symptoms.html.
The SCD looks to be a good anticandida diet too though because candida
thrives on sugars. The candida sites I have been to, although not so
specific in diet are similar in many ways.
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 09:15:02 -0800
From: Tom <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: Re: GI doctors
I too was convinced that at least part of my problems were due to candida. But everything I tried to fight candida failed to do any good, while other things (such as the SCD) did help me. So, while I think that problems with candida can really exist, I suspect that a lot of cases are actually something else.
Have you tried the CDSA test from Great Smokies lab? It said that I have no problem at all with candida, and also identified other organisms that are indeed causing me problems. The treatment for those organisms helped right away whereas no candida treatment ever helped me.
Contact them at 800-522-4762 to get a list of physicians in your area
that are familiar with the tests. Check their web page at
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:02:38 EST
For those of you looking for a lab to test for parasites. The Institute of
Parasitic Disease in Arizona has a great reputation for finding "bugs" that
other labs do not detect, and much less expensive then Great Smokies Lab. I
originally sent them a stool specimen about 7 months ago and and they found 2
different parasites and a slight overgrowth of candida. 2 Months prior to
that, I was tested by a hospital lab which found nothing. I took an herbal
formular called Botanefuge for 3 months, was retested and there was no sign of
parasites. Unfortunately although giving up fruit and honey for 2 months and
of course strict adherence to the SCD minus any yeast foods, such as
mushrooms, alchohol, vinegar...and taking natural remedies for candida
(caprylic acid), I still tested with a slight overgrowth. I've now been off
of all fruit and honey .... for 4 months. I am going to be retested again
next week to see if there is any progress in the candida area. To order a
test kit call (602) 545-9236. It's about $15.00. You take your stool
specimen and send to The Institute of Parasitic Disease. Their phone is (602)
955-4211. They will fax the results to any doctor you choose including a
holistic doctor. The actual test is about $70.00. If you have any questions,